A look at technology in FM and how it has evolved and can help elevate the cleaning industry
Can you tell us a bit about your background in FM?
I came from working with trading systems with blue chip companies. I started as a systems administrator for a technical analysis company and over 10 years, I worked up to CTO and COO of a group company. It was there that I really gained an in-depth understanding of data and analytics. This was before big data and analytics had such a buzz around them, so it was a great head start for me. I was looking at neural networks and connected data a long time before we had heard of Artificial intelligence (AI), Big Data and the Internet of Things (IoT).
Over the years, this tech has become more efficient, fallen in cost, and become easier to use, so it’s become more accessible to organisations. I moved to working for a healthcare company and began looking at how FM worked throughout the organisations, from doctors’ surgeries up to trust level. I moved from there into FM tech, developing soft services technology. Finally, I took all of that knowledge and experience to build Clenetix.
Tell us about your love for technology? How did it begin?
My first foray into computing was back when I was 13 or 14. My dad did some training through the Open University - a fundamentals in computing course. I think it was watching the work he did and hearing him talk about it that got me engaged. I was really interested in machines and tech long before the internet.
At 14 I was looking after the school networks and backups with my IT teacher. I was aware of most major computing platforms and learned everything I could about them. It was those skills that got me my job at the analytics company initially.
I think what I enjoy the most is that you take a problem and find a solution. That’s satisfying. But then you iterate, find a more effective way of doing it, and keep improving and building. You’re always working within cost constraints but that adds another interesting problem-solving element.
Looking at how far things have come in just a few years or a decade is the perfect example of that iterative process. Back-up processes used to take 16 hours and staff carrying them out would have to go home late and work weekends. Now I can automate an entire system in just a few weeks and I don’t have to work weekends to do it.
What makes good technology? How do you develop something good?
There are a few different factors that make technology “good” and it’s about more than just making something that works. It has to work in the right way, in the right context and of course, within budget. You can automate processes and collect data but if the outcome of that doesn’t actually improve your activities, there’s no point. It has to serve a real purpose rather than just look impressive. “Good’ technology starts with a problem and either solves it or finds a way to do something more efficiently.
I think to understand and create great tech, you have to build it so it will scale and grow with the client. Where does it sit in that system? What problem does it solve? Who will be working with it? You need a blend of tech and know-how alongside the right platform. Tech doesn’t work on its own.
What have the main challenges and opportunities been in Tech for the FM sector?
I think that the main problem in the tech industry is that everyone talks a good game, but people so often don’t follow through. They don’t innovate where they should. They don’t use tech to its full potential. Instead, a lot of tech is designed to look good and include anything new and exciting. It needs to be designed for optimal user experience.
The cost point has to be right, of course. The tech has to be autonomous of the environment in which you use it – you shouldn’t have to connect it to old systems. That makes it vulnerable to updates and refits. Tech is an attempt to wow clients and it should be a fundamental way of achieving and outcome.
How do you see the future of cleaning? Do you see the workforce changing the way it operates?
We need to see a change in mindset. We still see price generally based on square footage without any consideration of what the service covers. We really need to be more cognisant in the post-Covid era. Costing needs to be based on resource consumption, for example. Tech can be used to guide this. We use tech to build a picture of what space we have, how it is used, and how we can really direct cleaning in the most efficient way. This can have a huge impact on finance.
There’s a lot of talk in FM about smart buildings and integrating tech. Is this needed?
It’s definitely something that can be great in the right context but don’t just dive into it unthinking. Like I say, with tech, it’s about solving problems, not having the newest, shiniest thing. You need to balance cost and control. What are you achieving and how does that change the provision? What does the tech cost to install and run, but also, how can that save you money in the long-term? You need to take a comprehensive approach.
What’s your vision of the return to work? What will be high on the list of priorities for customers?
The products we’ve created have been designed specifically to create safer, cleaner workplaces so our aim would be for clients to allow this tech to guide them. We should be able to make people feel more secure and trusting of their environment. You have to remember that workplace health goes beyond physical health – wellbeing is important too. If we can provide reassurance, then that can reduce anxiety and improve mental health.
I think that we will see changes in BCC and RICS advice on how often cleaning should take place. A huge role for all FM providers will be helping their clients adjust to this so I hope that firms tend towards doing so in a data-led way since this will be the most reliable option.
It will be interesting to see whether there is a culture of ambulance chasing as people return to the workplace. Certainly, organisations will have to take greater accountability for the health of their staff.
How much more do you think people will value frontline professions like cleaning?
Cleaners are the unsung heroes of the pandemic. They are the first line of defence against the virus. They’ve been working directly with the surfaces and areas that are highest risk. Each one of them is someone’s family member, a mother, father, daughter, son, sister, brother. They’ve had to change their lifestyles to protect themselves and their loved ones and they have put themselves on the frontline to keep us all safe in the environments with interact with. People have recognised that and it’s so vital we don’t forget it moving forward.
What do you think the cleaning industry has learnt from the pandemic?
We won’t know for sure what any industry has learnt until we truly emerge from the pandemic. We will find out what changes really stick and what people forget about once it’s no longer in the news. That said, I’m very hopeful that the industry has learnt that it needs to evolve. It needs a voice and to use its expertise to educate clients on approach and capabilities.
This is a critical time. I hope we see a change in the mindset so that these services are no longer commodified and sold to the cheapest provider. Cleaning is about keeping us safe, well, and happy. To do that, we need the technology to clean effectively, efficiently, and transparently.